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quel Send message Joined: 19 May 09 Posts: 34 Credit: 32,923,471 RAC: 0 |
"Have made a bit of progress with #16 *es* tugercdade* stantet* x *vom* oungn jkotead *scheine neun von* dxtent *kein* ssstrisjhchtc *VO* moungn *it stands? vom = to ? certificate 9 of? not any stranded?* VO could be Verbindungsoffizier - liaison; liaison officer http://dict.tu-chemnitz.de/deutsch-englisch/Verbindungsoffizier.html hope this helps." |
schlosschnitzel Send message Joined: 13 Sep 09 Posts: 1 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
Ok, some quick results: Result 1: effenyodendetersixssfruenrdursersumnenxannuenioiiningrneunebeuenkuleplnu
I've started and most of it looks like gibberish with the Pretty much. I'll check if there is a longer word, which might not be coincidence. |
pspinks Send message Joined: 11 Sep 09 Posts: 2 Credit: 713,588 RAC: 0 |
Hi all I'm new to this, but you seem to have an interesting project here. > Result 17: > aedotonurtrerhoffuergxlewiinetersfuendeneorerttieaoccnsyeiehlaenachsyekf > * fuer = "for", spelling is ok > * wiineters = shares letters with winter, but is seriously misspelled > * fuende = "findings" would be "funde", so it is misspelled > * nach = "after", spelling is ok > There's only two words there which I can identify, doesn't look like much. I think that was #34, not #17. There are a few more german words in there [ton (sound), nur (only), hof (farm), ende (end), den (the)], but I doubt this is the answer we are looking for. Likewise for #16. Can someone put the complete set of hceyz72 results on rapidshare or similar? Searching thousands of pages manually is a huge chore, but I have an idea how to automate the process. About the suggestion that German spelling reform might make it more difficult to decipher the message - I doubt that will be the case. The recent reforms mainly affect the use of sz (double s), triple consonants (eg, Balletttänzerin), silent h (eg, Thun -> Tun), and spelling of loan words, as well as capitalisation (eg, Du -> du), hyphenation (eg, Zuk-ker -> Zuc-ker), splitting of compound words (eg, Rad fahren), and punctuation. Many changes are irrelevant in the context of Enigma messages, and the others are unlikely to affect comprehension. |
TJM Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 25 Aug 07 Posts: 843 Credit: 267,994,998 RAC: 0 |
A couple of words at random locations are not enough, it's a side effect of the algorithm used. These words just popped up at random and the score went up. There's always a slim chance, that the hillclimb algorithm will decode a fragment of the message and the rest will be just a random garbage. For such decrypt, the score might not be high enough to show up in top scores. There's a real example of message like this on cryptocellar.org: http://cryptocellar.web.cern.ch/cryptocellar/bgac/GArmy_July1941.html http://cryptocellar.web.cern.ch/cryptocellar/bgac/Ekeys_July1941.html 3) Nr. 153, SOFGI, gets garbled after the third cipher group. Even though most of the machine settings are known, it's still impossible to decode full text. And as far as I know, the application used will find the partial solution, but it's score is below top 'random plaintexts' (that also depends on the dictionaries used). I can dump the whole archive to txt (CSV) file (and probably also .XML/.XLS), just tell me which format you need and I'll upload it somewhere. M4 Project homepage M4 Project wiki |
pspinks Send message Joined: 11 Sep 09 Posts: 2 Credit: 713,588 RAC: 0 |
CSV would be fine for what I have in mind. I suggest posting it on rapidshare or a similar service. |
TJM Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 25 Aug 07 Posts: 843 Credit: 267,994,998 RAC: 0 |
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[AF>EDLS>BIOMED] Heyoka Send message Joined: 11 Sep 07 Posts: 4 Credit: 87,048 RAC: 0 |
Hello TJM Is there somewhere a awgly100 result page ? |
TJM Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 25 Aug 07 Posts: 843 Credit: 267,994,998 RAC: 0 |
Nope, the 'live' database (used by the server) is not available for public, because it's really big and querying it seriously reduces the server performance. M4 Project homepage M4 Project wiki |
[AF>EDLS>BIOMED] Heyoka Send message Joined: 11 Sep 07 Posts: 4 Credit: 87,048 RAC: 0 |
Nope, the 'live' database (used by the server) is not available for public, because it's really big and querying it seriously reduces the server performance. I thought a static page with awgly100 top50 or top100 results. Maybe we can look over this top results and check if there's anything that makes sense. It's not worth to update this page up to the end |
quel Send message Joined: 19 May 09 Posts: 34 Credit: 32,923,471 RAC: 0 |
Yes, how about a static page with top N results or perhaps one that is updated weekly. |
TJM Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 25 Aug 07 Posts: 843 Credit: 267,994,998 RAC: 0 |
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